Whats everyone's thoughts on ukswaths Anovos build?

[jconway2002]

Hi everyone,

ukswraths Anovos build on whitearmor.net (http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/35086-ukswraths-anovos-tk-build/) was recommended as a resource during the tutorial on Saturday. I was wondering if his tutorial is okay to follow as is, or if there are any parts that should be tweaked? Also, how does ukswraths supply list compare to what would be needed for Dean's recommended strapping setup? And finally, where should I buy the elastic and other strapping system materials?

ukswraths supply list:

 

Materials:
E6000 - two to three+ 2oz tubes, or two+ 3oz tubes
Zap-A-Gap & Zip Kicker
Elastic (Chest to Back plate) - White 2" x 2' in length recommended) 

Elastic (Drop Boxes) - White 3/4" x 20" 

Elastic (Bells to Shoulder Strapping) - Black 1" x 12", ANOVOS supplied

Elastic (Bicep to Bicep around arm) - Black 1" x 20"

Elastic (Bicep to Forearm) - Black, 2" x 6", ANOVOS supplied

Elastic (Thigh to belt) - Black, 3" x 24"

Elastic (Kidney to Ab right side) - Black, 1" x 8"

Elastic (Posterior to Cod) - Black, 1" x 12"

Nylon Webbing (Kidney to Ab, left side 6 rivets) - 1" x 6", ANOVOS supplied

Pop rivets (Waist belt drop boxes) 1/8" x 1/8" Aluminum pop rivets. 

 

Paint: 
Gloss black: Humbrol #21 Testors # 1747
Gray: Humbrol #5 Testors # 1138
French Blue Humbrol #14 Testors # 2715

Internal Strapping: 
A. ANOVOS supplied
B. Internal Strapping Brackets - http://www.whitearmo...-now-available/
C. Snaps: 

1) Ab - "S" snaps "poppers" (Used on the following locations: Ab to belt, Ab to Kidney right side, Cod to Posterior, Shoulder to Back plate strapping right/front) 15mm, (bag of 15 is the smallest)- http://www.ebay.com/...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
2) Ab - "S" Snap die punch and set tool 15-17mm, (1x) - http://www.ebay.com/...=item5413a405e2
NOTE: For the "S" snaps and set tool kit you may need to contact the seller who is in the UK and have him set up a auction with US shipping. The original sales did not have a ship to US option at the time I purchased the items.
3) Thigh Ammo Belt - Double Cap Rivets (smallest bag available) - http://www.ebay.com/...=item35d9a33a26 orhttp://www.whitearmo...vel-rivet-sets/or Hobby/Craft store.
4) Thigh Ammo Belt - Double Cap rivet tool (1x) - http://www.ebay.com/...=item463922315d, or http://www.whitearmo...vel-rivet-sets/, or Hobby/Craft store
5) Ab/Kidney - Split rivets (bag) - ANOVOS supplied
7) Inner strapping - Line 24 snaps, nickle, 100ct (recommended), Tandy - https://www.tandylea...ts/1263-12.aspx. Fasnap -http://fasteners.fas...nap-fasteners? 
7a) Inner strapping (canon brackets) Not illustrated in this build. For informational purposes only - http://www.whitearmo...-now-available/
8) Shoulder to Bicep - Dritz Sew in Snaps, Nickle, Size #10 -http://www.amazon.co...YH1DNAAPPP1R3H1

9) COD split rivet - ANOVOS supplied

 

D. Calf closure

1) Elastic - http://www.amazon.co..." white elastic

2) Bra hooks - http://www.amazon.co...dritz bra hooks

3) Velcro - ANOVOS supplied  

 

Other:
Thigh Garter belt - http://www.whitearmo...-garter-system/
Gloves (ANOVOS supplied) or  Gloves & Rubber Hand guards - https://trooperbay.c...k-or-plain.html
Boots - Totally killer Boots - http://www.tkboots.com/, Imperial Boots - http://www.imperialboots.com/
Undersuit (ANOVOS supplied) or - http://www.whitearmo...uit-shirtpants/

Waist Belt - ANOVOS modified.

Waist Belt other - Kittle's belts) - http://www.whitearmo...e-canvas-belts/

 

 

[Stutz]

Lots of stuff to address here, but I'll do my best.

The short answer is that yes, you can follow his tutorial to the letter and probably be fine.

But first, a couple disclaimers:

• Ukswrath is building his kit to a level of accuracy that is even beyond Centurion status. That is entirely optional, and that can affect the types of materials you use. This affect how the armor is connected, what type of snaps, straps, brackets, etc.

• Each kit needs to be customized for the individual, so one person might need extra plastic for shims etc. that may not be included in this list

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• For adhesives, he uses both E6000 and Zap-a-Gap. Those are both fine options. Each has its pros and cons which I went over in the talk. If you only want to use one, go with E6000 as it's safer and more forgiving. Zap a gap has no working time, and can be messy and ruin the finish on your armor if it gets anywhere it's not supposed to. If you do use it, just use it on the inside of your armor and be very careful with it.

• For exactly what type, color and length of  strapping and elastic you should use, there are too many variables to be able to predict exactly. He makes one big clamshell out of the torso pieces. I prefer to make them into two main parts, and use suspenders. The one-piece is more accurate, but not required for any level of approval. I prefer the second method, but others prefer the first. Use whichever you like.

• Pop rivets are useful for some applications. He uses them to redo the way his elastic attaches to his drop boxes. This is optional.

• His paint colors are accurate, though the black is just for painting the chin/vocoder on the helmet, which is already painted.

• Internal strapping brackets are for uber accuracy, and are not required for basic, EIB or Centurion.

• He uses S poppers/tool instead of the more common Line 24 snaps that most people use, again, for uber accuracy.

• He uses double cap rivets for the thigh ammo belt. Centurion requires that the rivets have a solid head. You can use pop rivets if you don't care about Centurion, or even split rivets if you prefer.

• He uses sew-in snaps for the shoulder to bicep connection. You can use standard line 24 snaps, or any other connection style as long is it is not visible.

• Elastic and bra hook calf closure is another Auber-accuracy thing. Not required for any level of approval. You can use his method, or the more common velcro method.

• Thigh garter belt: the tutorial link is to a custom made one. You can do that, or use a standard web belt. The tutorial is fine.

• Gloves: He is going Centurion, so is using rubber gloves and latex hand plates. This is a centurion requirement. You can use the hand plates that came with the kit, and Nomex flight gloves like I showed in my tutorial if you prefer. I find them more comfortable and color than rubber gloves.

• Undersuit. Should be coming from Anovos. No one knows if it's approvable, but it should be.

• Waist Belt. He modifies the existing Anovos model. That's fine if you can repair the two extra top holster holes. Or you can make/buy a new, stiffer belt.

 

Hope this helps :-)

[jconway2002]

Thanks Dean! I want my build to reflect everything you went over yesterday, as it seemed very functional...I just could not remember all the details. This post helped jog my memory though, so thank you. 

[jconway2002]

So, I am putting together a shopping list and was wondering how many line 24 snaps I will need? Also, are these the correct pliers to install them easily?

http://www.amazon.com/PRYM-riveting-fasteners-eyelets-buttons/dp/B000P1ASDI

[Stutz]

That tool won't work. Here are the tools you need.

http://www.amazon.com/Tandy-Leather-Factory-24-Snap-Setter/dp/B003A728X2

http://www.amazon.com/Tandy-Leather-Factory-Rivet-Anvil/dp/B003A9I9ZQ

There are better versions, but they cost more:

http://www.amazon.com/Hoover-Pres-N-Snap-Tool-Complete-Kit/dp/B008D4F4Y2

http://www.campbell-randall.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=239

http://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-hand-press

Just make sure whichever version you get is specifically for "Line 24" snaps.

Best guess at number of snaps is in the ballpark of 25. Of course, this depends on how you assemble your kit, and what attachment methods you use. Plan on ruining about 20% of your snaps until you perfect your technique. I would get a 50 pack to be on the safe side.

[jconway2002]

16 hours ago, Stutz said:

Thank you! Yikes, those are expensive. Guess I better get good at doing it the ol' fashion way.